Derby man held over Gordon Brown terror plot 'is Eastern European'

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ANTI-TERROR police were today questioning a man arrested in

Derby over a plot to kill the Prime Minister.

Community leaders said they were shocked by the swoop on an

address in Normanton.

The 29-year-old man was arrested at a house in Moore Street

on Tuesday for alleged offences under the Terrorism Act

2000.

News of the arrest was not released until this morning.

The Evening Telegraph understands the arrested man is of

Eastern European origin.

It was part of an anti-terror operation which has seen four

other arrests in the past fortnight.

Police sources said officers were investigating threats to

kill Prime Minister Gordon Brown.

It is understood no actual plot was in place but that

officers discovered a written threat on an extremist website

earlier this year.

The internet hosts many websites from groups and individuals

claiming allegiance to al Qaida and Osama bin Laden which

routinely issue warnings and threats against political leaders

in the UK and the US.

A police spokeswoman said: “The arrest is part of an ongoing

investigation by Lancashire Constabulary and Greater Manchester

Counter Terrorism Unit.”

Officers were this morning searching the Moore Street house.

They said the search would take several days.

A 50-year-old neighbour who has lived in the area for four

years said: “The first I saw yesterday was about three police

vans but the officers weren’t saying anything to us. Some of

them weren’t in uniform so I presume they were the terrorism

people.

“The man lives there with his wife and two young kids. The

kids are lovely and always say ‘hi’. The last I saw of the guy

was about a week ago.”

The man held in Derby was the fifth to be arrested in the

past two weeks.

Three were arrested at Manchester Airport and in Accrington

on August 14, and a fourth was detained in Blackburn

yesterday.

Today, Normanton ward councillor Hardyal Dhindsa said: “I

heard about it this morning. If this person has been identified

as being involved then it is obviously very serious.

“We need to wait and see whether the intelligence is correct

- my hope is that it is not but if it is then it is a serious

matter and the police should take all precautions

necessary.

“I was a bit shocked to hear about this happening in Derby

but we know that a few years ago people from Derby were

implicated in a similar thing.

“But the majority of people in Derby are law-abiding - this

is a very small minority.”

Shokat Lal, chairman of Derby’s Pakistani Community Centre,

said: “There is obviously a sense of shock about what is going

on and what the details behind the arrest are.

“Whether this is a genuine case or wether it leads to noting

remains to be seen. We have seen similar arrests in the past

which have led to nothing.

“It is important that people do not panic and wait to see

what the outcome of the police investigation is before making

assumptions.”

Margaret Beckett , the MP for Derby South, which covers

Normanton, is chair of the House of Commons Intelligence and

Security Committee, which is often privy to confidential

information.

She warned that it was important that the people who had

been arrested got a fair and balanced hearing.

She said: “If the arrests do turn out to be connected to

something significant, then I would be very sorry that anyone

from the city is being considered as possibly having been

involved in something so serious – now it is vital that we have

a thorough investigation.”

Mrs Beckett explained that security services work in such a

way that they would only have acted to arrest men when the time

was right.

“We can be confident that there was enough information for

them to have felt the need to do something – I don’t think they

wouldn’t have taken these steps unless it was necessary,” she

said.

“Previous investigations have shown that the police tend to

get as much information as they can before making a move.”

But the veteran MP, who was also Foreign Secretary in 2006

and 2007, suggested that if the plot did turn out to be

significant then it may signal a change in tactics from

terrorist groups.

“Targeting politicians for these groups would not be

completely unprecedented but it is unusual. The assumption and

the experience of the security services have been much more of

threats to the public at large.

“But with the plots that have been uncovered it would seem

that preferred method has become more difficult.”

Labour’s Derby North MP Bob Laxton said he was shocked by

the news of the arrest. “Clearly it is of concern to me that we

have got people in our community who are believed to be

involved in terrorism.

“We had that one case of the individual who was involved in

the terrorist atrocity in Tel Aviv and there have been a number

of other arrests.

“Obviously an arrest doesn’t mean that person is guilty and

we will have to wait and see the outcome of the

investigation.

“I am pleased to see the security sand police services have

been so vigilant and acted in this way.”

Normanton ward councillor Chris Williamson said he believed

the community would remain strong in the wake of the

arrest.

“I’m sure the whole community will be shocked by this turn

of events as I have been. “The fact is communities in Derby do

live very harmoniously together. There are very strong links

and relationships between communities in the city and I think

that will heighten the level of shock about this.”

One Moore Street resident, a mother of three who did not

want to be name, said: “I did not see the police arrive. There

was a van and they were coming in and out of their house. One

van arrived with police officers and then a police car got

there.

“There used to be a couple living there but they moved out a

few months ago.

“I was quite surprised when I saw the police there, there

are so many people that come and go that you never really know

who is about.

“I never thought that this kind of thing would happen down

here.

“It’s very shocking and I am a bit worried.”

Aftehkar Ali, 40, works at Al Medina Butchery, said: “We are

a very tight-knit community but if someone moved into rented

accommodation we do not know what they are going to do

here.

“This is unusual for the area, we have the odd dispute when

someone has had a fight and that can be quite worrying, but

what can you say about this?

“If it is something like that (referring to terrorism) the

community will pull together. I am very surprised that

something like that can happen on my own doorstep.

“It is very shocking.”

Another resident who doesn’t want to be named, 63 years old,

lived in Moore Street for 42 years, said: "I saw the police

cars down the road at about 10 in the morning.

“A lot of people just come into the area and we don’t know

them.

“I can’t believe it.”

Today, Police Community Support Officers were out in

Normanton explaining what has happened and reassuring the

public

Local people said police were at the Moore Street house from

around 7.30am yesterday. Ian Richardson, assistant manager of

Home Bargains, which is on the opposite side of the street from

the house, said: “There were a lot of police cars around

yesterday. We got in at 7.30am and they were already here then.

At the time we thought it was immigration but you don’t get

police and CID for that. It was only today we heard about the

terrorist links.”

A spokesman for 10 Downing Street said he could not comment

on what was an ongoing investigation.

The Derby arrest followed three arrested on August 14, when

three men, aged 21, 22 and 23 were detained.

Two were held at Manchester Airport as they were about to

board a flight to Finland. A third was arrested in Accrington,

Lancashire.

Detectives have until tomorrow to charge or release them, or

seek an extension to their custody.

The fourth man, a 24-year-old arrested in Blackburn

yesterday, is believed to be a white Muslim convert.

The Blackburn arrest came came after a dawn raid on a flat

behind a Halal butcher’s shop, where local residents said the

man – who was said to be white – lived alone.

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  • Profile image for This is Derbyshire

    by karl, alfreton

    Wednesday, August 27 2008, 1:16PM

    “Andy, I fear there is no penalty worthy of that particular crime...”

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    by andy, derby

    Wednesday, August 27 2008, 1:13PM

    “Karl. Yeh we did win last night. Maybe the police should storm the Derby dressing room and arrest all the players and jewell as their performances have been nothing short of criminal.”

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    by kevin, Spain

    Wednesday, August 27 2008, 1:12PM

    “You'll be surprised just what the authorities do and know. When I was in Derby, I had cause to believe that 2 North Africans were financing terrorism - won't go into details - and contacted the police immediately. They were round in 15 minutes and knew every detail about these guys. And that was 20 years ago! (IRA days - being supported by Libya).”

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    by karl, Alfreton

    Wednesday, August 27 2008, 1:05PM

    “Thanks Kevin, I just think thgere is too much copper bashing at the moment with reference to anti terror, who knows how many may have died without their invisible protection..”

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    by karl, Alfreton

    Wednesday, August 27 2008, 1:03PM

    “Andy..No smoke without fire, like I said in a previous post ref 7/7 bombings.

    We aren't privvy to all the information available, so I suppose we have to make our own judgments...at least Derby won last night ;-)”

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    by andy, derby

    Wednesday, August 27 2008, 1:00PM

    “Karl....... in fairness mate...... i have!

    It's a non story, just like when some murderer escapes from Sudbury Prison.

    It'll all fizzle out to nothing. Dont believe everything you read or hear.”

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    by Stephen Brown, Derby

    Wednesday, August 27 2008, 12:58PM

    “iain, you are wrong it was not ETA who carried out the Madrid bombings. Those responsible were a group of terrorists from North Africa.”

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    by kevin, Spain

    Wednesday, August 27 2008, 12:57PM

    “Good comment, Karl. I agree. Also, it shows that the authorities are doing something.......”

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    by karl, alfreton

    Wednesday, August 27 2008, 12:52PM

    “ANDY...in fairness mate, if you have nothing to say...don't!”

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    by karl, alfreton

    Wednesday, August 27 2008, 12:50PM

    “In response to Kathryn, the national press have created the hype, the D.E.T would be remiss in its duty if it didn't follow up the story, being the local paper. I appreciate, it may look like a nothing story, if the 7/7 bombings had been foiled before that terrible day, would that also have been a nothing story the red tops had latched on to??”

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