“Good news for those who have a driving test later this week.....

http://tinyurl.com/7kkyekq”

“On the subject of night time driving,a different speed limit is a good idea.

Pass plus on the other hand is a bad idea:
The scheme takes a minimum of six hours to complete. The practical assessment is more lenient than that used in the standard driving test.
There is no examination at the end of the Pass Plus course; rather, a certificate is awarded once the instructor is satisfied with the candidate's competence.

For younger inexperienced drivers apparantly,but,by that time they have already picked up bad habits.Something like that would be a good idea for schools to partake in.Before they take driving and theory tests.

There may be sections in the highway code for pedestrians and cyclists,but no-one is forced to learn/read up on it.
You only have to if you want to learn to drive,i agree with what p-Bear is saying as (especially youngsters) are not very road savvy,and if there was a national test on being a good pedestrian,then i am all for it....provided walkways are not blocked :)”

“P_Bear I'd be more impressed if there was a "highway code" for pedestrians and cyclists.

There is,sort of.
I took my cycle proficiency test and passed it at the age of 10,i read the highway code then too.
That should be a part of your driving licence requirements in later life too i think,i dont believe many partake in this at schools anymore.Which is a shame.
I think that there should also be a compulsary basic IQ test to prove persons are of sound mind before even getting a provisional licence or taking a theory test as the stupid mistakes i have seen made on the roads are beyond belief.
On talking to persons who have recently taken their tests,they dont recognise some of the rules i learnt way back....and that is concerning.
Its not that some of the rules have changed,a lot have been forgotten/left out.........
I would rather have more knowledge on the road than less.
I wonder why some things are left out? Maybe an insurance company can answer that one,but thats a whole different subject :D

I can see why an advanced course would be the best way forward.
(Considered it myself once for 250cc and above).
If you have one (large) portion of the populace with Driving licence lite,with all their bad habits,you would need an advanced licence to maneuver (hopefully) all of the hazards that that may bring.
Plus,it makes your insurance cheaper,and that can only be a good thing.”

“DavidGaleUKIP has the right idea,road safety training for youngsters.
I had a similar experience at school,a superbike was brought in and we were told to stand in groups of three.
The reasoning for the grouping of 3 was because,we were told,that 1 out of every 3 people would DIE as a result of an auto accident.
We each took turns to sit on the bike and attempted to try and steer it (it weighed a ton and i had difficulty in doing this).It was pointed out that if we were unable to move the bike,then we should not consider getting on one.
It worked for me,i have always loved bikes but due to too many foolish and incompetent people on the road,it kind of put me off.

Some friends of mine made regular visits to that place in Mansfield,i went on a few occasions.
Completely nuts what goes on there :(
It had quite a following,as does Bonsall moor and others,although i heard that steps had been taken to halt activities there.But,i still hear people mentioning it,and that is a worry.

Better to educate them instead of them learning bad habits on bad terrain.”

“And once the 20 signs are in place.....they need to put on them.... ' Twenty's Plenty '”

“by onnhoj2010
Yes. The problem is the idiots who think their own way of driving is safer, who passed the test years ago, have developed a multitude of bad habits and are no longer aware how new drivers are taught to drive."


By trying to insult me you have actually shown yourself up for the silly individual you are.
The "problem" lies with muppets (like you) who think that passing a test means they know how to drive, when in fact they are ignorant and useless.

Are you an advanced driver? I am. Are you qualified to teach and test others wishing to become advanced driver? I am. Do you hold a full racing licence? I do. Do you hold a HGV Licence? I do. Have you driven for 45 years sometimes 50,000 miles a year, without a single insurance claim? I have.

The highway code is a mish-mash of recomendations and advice - the highway code is NOT law contrary to popular belief.

The simple fact is that we allow anyone to pass the totally inadequate driving test. You can pass the test never having driven anything more powerful than a Nissan Micra, never having driven in snow, never having been on a motorway, never having driven at night, and with only a rudimentary ability to control a car. You pass a "test" which consists of little more than a short drive on local roads, and armed with that piece of paper, you can then get behind the wheel of a 250mph Buggatti Veron and head down the nearest motorway.

The roads are packed with people who have scraped through this meaningless test, and whose only post-pass experience is driving their second hand Ford Fiesta to the shops and to work.

If any government ever finds the courage, irt should make it illegal to drive without passing the Advanced test (which would get rid of 99% of the bad drivers), and, it should order the automatic crushing of any car over 5 years old t(hus eliminating 99% of mechanical failures).

Unfortunately this will never happen so we are stuck with muppets in clapped out cars and women on the school run cluttering up our roads.”

“by onnhoj2010
How many posters on here have looked at the Highway Code since doing the test? Do you know how many rules have changed since you passed? Still think you're a responsible driver?"



Do you HONESTLY think the highway code has got anything to do with safe driving ?

I'd be more impressed if there was a "highway code" for pedestrians and cyclists. Like the idiot (you know who you are) who was cycling along Kedleston Road today wandering all over the place with an ipod plugged into his ear so that he couldnt hear traffic behind him, or the supid school kid earlier this wek who stepped straight out into the road without looking because she was too busy texting on her mobile 'phone.

Get rid of these kind of idiots and you would reduce accidents far more than some arbitary meaningless speed limit.”

“by fredbargate
Once any speed has been reached and established there is no problem in maintaining it without constant reliace on the speedometer."


What planet do you live on ?”

“fredbargate
Once any speed has been reached and established there is no problem in maintaining it without constant reliace on the speedometer.

(Cough) Downhill?”

“Surely one of the biggest overall dangers while driving is complacency - whether that's about your driving ability, your car's condition, that your car can somehow get you out of trouble if you drive badly (so it doesn't matter if you do), and even the faith you have in pedestrians and other road users not to do anything stupid. Familiarity with roads is another example, and why it's often the case that those caught breaking localised speed limits are people who live there, with the 'I know these roads, so I'm safe' mentality.

How many posters on here have looked at the Highway Code since doing the test? Do you know how many rules have changed since you passed? Still think you're a responsible driver?

I suppose we should at least be thankful that it's only a 20mph limit being considered and not more horrendous speed bumps, which either encourage people to drive erratically by speeding up and slowing down between them.”