Christian pair to ask council to reconsider fostering bid
A CHRISTIAN couple whose views on homosexuality are a bar to them becoming foster carers are resubmitting their application to Derby City Council today.
Owen and Eunice Johns, aged 65 and 62, together with Derby City Council, had previously made a joint application to the High Court, asking for clarification about how the council should treat potential foster carers who were unwilling to promote the practice of homosexuality to a small child.
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Owen and Eunice Johns
The judges decided that homosexual rights trumped freedom of religion in the context of fostering and that it would be legal for councils to reject foster applications from Christians if they were not prepared to promote homosexuality.
Mr and Mrs Johns' long-standing application from 2007, to offer weekend respite care to children aged five to eight, had previously been halted because of their Christian views but is still outstanding.
The Johns will hand a letter to the city council later today formally requesting the council reinstates and continues considering the Johns' application to become foster carers.
In the letter, the Johns say: "You know that we would love and care for any child in our care and you are aware of our views on sexual ethics.
"However, the national minimum standards on fostering, the statutory guidance and the council's own equality and diversity policy do not require that 'positive attitudes be demonstrated towards homosexuality'.
Such a requirement is not mandatory.
"We believe that there is still space in the law for Christians to be accommodated in the fostering process.
"The council can choose to formulate a more tolerant policy towards Christians who desire to foster children."
The Oakwood couple, who have also organised a national petition with the Christian Legal Centre which is supporting their case, fostered 15 children during the 1990s but new rules were introduced in 2007.







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by KevH, Nottinghamshire
Thursday, April 07 2011, 11:46AM
“This situation has, unfortunately, singled out a Christian couple.
Would the same rules apply if a Muslim family refused to teach a child that it was OK to eat a bacon sandwich?
The world has gone mad........”
by SarahL, Derby
Thursday, April 07 2011, 9:37AM
“@ Bryan
The whole point is that foster parents should encourage tolerance and acceptance of all regardless of race, religion, colour, or sexuality - no ifs, no buts. Whether a child is Muslim, Catholic, straight, gay, goth, geek (the list is endless!), they should be accepted for who they are without someone else's prejudices affecting them.
If a child is bullying another, for whatever reason, that needs to be addressed - how would you react to an 8 yr old who had beaten someone up for being gay? Do you think a foster carer should tell them it's not an issue because its wrong to be gay?? Or were you just throwing that question in with no real concept of what you thought?”
by Bryan, Derbyshire
Thursday, April 07 2011, 1:01AM
“Too many "what ifs" here, SarahL, what if an 8 year old child came home and said he'd beaten someone up for being gay? what if the child came home with a black eye because someone thumped him for being a Catholic? What if a child came home and told his foster parents that he saw someone being beaten up because they were Christian? what should a foster parent say about Christians? but what if the child was Muslim and was teased because of that? What should foster parents say IF a child wanted to be a Jedi?”
by Venton, Derbys
Thursday, April 07 2011, 12:07AM
“Ezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, Are homosexuals welcome at the Mosque then?”
by Bryan, Derbyshire
Wednesday, April 06 2011, 11:22PM
“@Ezz So what about the people who want the death penalty for homosexuals? are they Christians?. At least Christians no longer want to stone people to death for blasphemy or order the stoning of women because they are a different religion. Ezz are you a Christianophobic?”
by Stephen, Derby
Wednesday, April 06 2011, 5:29PM
“This issue has already had too much space in the paper/website (and I understand the irony of me adding to that by typing this) but this latest attempt by the Johns is indicative of their complete unwillingness to accept that they are wrong and their utter arrogance in continuining despite very clear direction from the courts.
The decision to refuse them the right to foster children does not need discussing further as it has been debated ad nauseum.
Jane, you will see that you are mistaken about what they were asked if you look here http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/news/given-love-care-children/article-3322831-detail/article.html”
by Ezz, Derby
Wednesday, April 06 2011, 5:04PM
“Christianity is pretty much the cause of ALL Homophobia in the world, so before people lump the blame on the fact that they're from Jamaica, you might want to question why that nation has more Churches per square mile than any other place on the Earth in the first place.
And *lol* at the Christians saying that the majority of Christians don't share their views.
Please, do me a favour.
The majority of the WORLD share their view, because of Christianity.
Hence, the fact why people have to be almost socially engineered to become more "enlightened" about such things.
It does kind of help if children are taught not to be bigoted against anything, Let alone homosexuals. And thus the Johns fail in that regard.
Helping children "foster" negative attitudes towards certain sections of society is never a plus, especially at an age where they never should quite understand it anyway..
After all a future where even more people post inane comments on local newspaper websites is a future we don't want..”
by John Dale, Belper
Wednesday, April 06 2011, 4:46PM
“Jane, everyone is "allowed to have views and beliefs" - you can believe whatever you want. No-one is stopping you. What you cannot (necessarily) do is act on said belief.
Do you think that someone who believes it is OK to steal/murder/rape should be free to act on their beliefs (which, again, they're perfectly free to hold) or do you agree that none of us are free to act on any old belief we may hold?”
by Tom Fulep, Sinfin
Wednesday, April 06 2011, 3:33PM
“@ Tony
I and everyone else have been reading other people's views for weekszzzzz!
And don't interrupt me when I'm kipping :-)”
by Tom Fulep, Sinfin
Wednesday, April 06 2011, 3:32PM
“@ Tony
I and everyone else have been reading other people's views for weekszzzzz!
And don't interrupt me when I'm kipping :-)”