“What does it matter as long as something is done about the area, it is desparate to be sorted out . We walked through the city centre the other evening and I am ashamed to say that I was born and brought up here. Derelict buildings going to waste , pubs everywhere, bill-posted boarded up windows to mention but a few of the 'sights', and nothing of the character that Derby used to have. The heart has gone out of the town centre along with the people.”

“What exactly do you want? Leave it - people moan that it's unsightly and getting worse. Appoint someone to do start to do something about it - moan because it will cost money. News just in - to redevelop the area will cost money. Shock. angela - those grapes are very sour anren't they? And they are lasting quite some time too.”

“What exactly do you want? Leave it - people moan that it's unsightly and getting worse. Appoint someone to do start to do something about it - moan because it will cost money. News just in - to redevelop the area will cost money. Shock. angela - those grapes are very sour anren't they? And they are lasting quite some time too.”

“Why bother ?
The council have already ruined Derby - parking is appalling and expensive, the Westfield Centre is a ugly carbuncle that look no different from all the other shopping centres in all the other towns throughout Britain.
We dont even have a bus station, and when and if it is finally built - they are putting it in the wrong place.
The ONLY part of Derby that has not been totally destroyed so far is Sadlergate - Irongate, and no doubt it will be before long.

Why is it that these muppets in the council have the overwhelming need to frantically try to copy places like Nottingham? Why do they constantly try to destroy Derbys individuality?

Maybe they could tear Debanhams down - and make it into a staff car park for the new Hospital since they forgot to build enough parking spaces there. That would be the kind of lunatic idea you would expect from what must be one of the worst councils in Britain.”

“What exactly is Cityscape? I thought they were there to come up with ideas for regenerating Derby and if so why on earth are they paying someone else to come up with ideas? It will probably as Jon says and become yet another car park, if Derby hasn't been able to come up with some ideas for the land in some 20/30 years it has been empty and derelict all that says is we have some really stupid people running Derby. Duckworth Square was teeming with shoppers when I was in my teens, what did people expect when the council built the eagle centre? it took trade from Duckworth Square ensuring its demise. much the same as westfield, now the Cathedral quarter is suffering, that too will need some regeneration in years to come. Will they then hire some other consultants to tell them what to do with it?”

“i believe school buses are a waste of money angela - no wonder kids are fat. however that is my own opinion, as is yours on the whole issue of the consultations being waste of money.”

“JD. you raise the issue of school bus money, so it may surprise to you to know that the parents PAID for their children to use the buses, the ones travelling free will continue to travel free, the council still have to pay for those whose parents are in receipt of benefits, you have been duped by the lib dems into believing the taxpayer paid for all those using the buses when nothing is further than the truth. So the money paid for this consultation will come from somewhere and is a waste the same as all the councils consutations are.”

“angela, why raise the council tax, all this is, is the school bus money. i think this area needs some attention and development. the consultation will find out whether it is pointless or not, thats why you have them, so you dont just develop and waste tens of millions.”

“excellent news. another building site in derby can be designed and then sit there for the sole purpose of a car park!”

“And how much will that cost the population of Derby? Don't whinge to us next year that there needs to be a huge increase in council tax when money is wasted on pointless consultations, you might just find many will refuse to pay it.”