Derby County beaten 2-0 in Boxing Day clash at Burnley

“Its what you do with your players, signing them or bringing them through the ranks is one thing, its what you do with them, how you get them to play at home and away to get the most points possible, to me, we haven't a clue what our best 11 is for away games, its a complete lottery.

Fact for you - since Clough has been in charge we have the worst record in cup competitions of any the teams in the top 2 divisions.”

“Quote: 'darren wassall is doing a great job but its not negativity that he,s not mentioned a lot its becausewe all know except you that all good young players he makeswill be sold AND THATS NOT NEGATIVE THATS FACT'

How can it be a fact when we haven't sold one yet? In reality we haven't even had an offer for one! Something is a 'fact' if its based on previous experience, some smidgen of evidence but, like many other posters, you think that a 'fact' is something you read in the Daily Mirror.

GSE have got a false reputation for selling good players based on the exploits of Jeremy Keith and his mates so when you are so adamant that something is a 'fact' please make sure that it is one, is that too much to ask?”

“Ramraider

You''ve just proved my point! What a sucker!”

“staffsram- criticise fans for wanting him gone now,wait till end of season you say, were have you been last 4 seasons? darren wassall is doing a great job but its not negativity that he,s not mentioned a lot its becausewe all know except you that all good young players he makeswill be sold AND THATS NOT NEGATIVE THATS FACT. also just coz we are not yes sir clough brown noses like yourself it doesnt mean that we are loonies please do me the honour of looking in the mirror if yo really want to see one. have a nice day”

“Since when has a team's gates determined how good they are? Why should playing a team who get 10,000 be a doddle? Didn't Wimbledon spend some years in the top flight, before the got promoted weren't Blackpool getting gates of about 9,500? Even Notts County got into the top flight a few years ago.”

“Well said eranioooo,Millwall Burnley , average gates 9 to 10 thou. Playing teams like that away from home should be a doddle . Same old comments , "played some good stuff " Same end result.”

“MadridRam
Spot-on with regard to waiting until the season is over before judging the management. Those who come on here to criticise Clough, Metgod etc always seem to forget to mention the great job being done by Darren Wassall. Why I wonder? Could it be because it's a positive and that doesn't support their negative views?
One other point - take no notice of the number of red arrows, there's enough loonies on here who will automatically tick the red box for anything that in any way is positive. They mean nowt!”

“I have no idea why you have got seven red arrows Philanthropic because everything you say is commons sense. When people say 'football is a game of investment' what they really mean is that its a game of debt, reckless gambles and, sometimes, disaster. Occasionally owners throw huge amounts of borrowed money at a club and it comes off, very often it doesn't and eventually the bills have to be paid. I won't mention the trials and tribulations that the fans of once great clubs are facing at the moment because I will be accused of polarising the argument. One thing that fans have to realise is that owners don't buy championship football clubs because they love them, they don't buy them out of a sense of loyalty, they buy them in the hope that one day they will make money. They don't make money by risking their own assets, they risk the future of the club knowing that they can walk away when it all goes t**s up.

OptCapita bought Comet for £2 in 2011but when the company went bust they actually walked away with a tidy sum, they didn't lose a penny of their own money. No one knows how Forest are being financed, no one knows what surprises lay ahead. I prefer the way we are doing it.”

“Am I missing something? Plan was to continue improving this year: get top ten, maybe push for top 6. We're currently 4 points away from the playoffs and people want Clough out. We're currently in the most financially stable position we've been in for years and people want the board out.

I hear your cries of "Clough has had 4 years, enough is enough" but this is the first full year he has had a team that he assembled. At least give the support to the team and let him complete a season with his squad and his and GSE's objectives. They stated them at the start of the season and are pretty much on course to get there and whilst I'm not a blind faith Clough or GSE fan, I recognise what they are trying to achieve and think we're getting there.

If we've not improved at the end of the season, that's the time to ask questions.”

“I think Nigel's had enough time to make a real impact and hasn't taken it..he's only ever going to keep the team 'ticking over'..not pushing for promotion as we all want..i think it's time o part company and realize that we'r never going to hit the big time with this manager in charge, better trying someone else than banging our heads against a wall season after season!!”