Derby hit out at claims they need to sell players

“So glad some of the people posting on here are not at the helm. If we had kept all those you listed derbyboy then we would be playing in the village league. Of the players that have gone, only commons would make the squad, but he was only ever a mr 50% at best. We have a squad now full of potential and desire, who actually want to wear the shirt.
35 years of poor management and future planning is why we are in this situation and at least GSE are building from the ground up investing in the youth.”

“Oh dear Derbyboy, you really are a deluded soul.

You have listed the biggest load of dead beats ever to be assembled at a football club, all of them on Premier League wages, and you have no idea why we had to get them off the payroll?

Quote: 'Andy todd, Miles sterjovic,Liam Dickenson,Roy carrol,Martin Albrechstien,Claude davis....'

Good God man, we were lucky to get rid of them for nothing! In fact in most cases we had to pay them off to get them out of the door! I would gladly have driven them all to their next club and paid for the petrol.

Further quote: 'Jorden stewart, Jason beardsly,Giles barnes,Ruben Zarcovic,Gary teele,Jay Mceverly,Lee Hendrie,Paul Connely'

Are you having a laugh? Only one of them could play football and his career was nigh on over.

Are you really suggesting that anyone would want to pay a fee for any of the above or that they should still be at Derby. I thought that I was talking about footballers, not has-beens, sicknotes and never-will-be's !

And do you think that £800,000 was a poor return for Rob Hulse? Just check how many games he has played and how many goals he has scored since we conned QPR into paying that much. He was all but finished when he left us. Good player but his best days had gone.

And, finally, lets cut all this 'selling academy players for the first decent offer' s***e until we actually sell one! When we have sold one of our best young players for a cut price fee then you can have a good moan, but it hasn't happened yet so what is your problem? So far all we have done is get rid of a load of rubbish to halve a Premier League wag bill that we couldn't afford.

Next you will be telling me that we should have kept Claude Davies or sold him for a huge fee - like clubs were battering the door down to sign him - not. Come on, you can admit it, you were a Claude Davies fan. There is no shame in that, there had to be one.

And what is this with 'you must work for GSE rubbish', just because I think that you spout nonsense? You may as well accuse Pete Derby of being Peter Gadsby (just a joke!).”

“derwentx i smell a RAT....HA ha...FACT FACT Fact....do you use certain football board by any chance????? Yes I have heard it all before and Derby are at the front of this great new beginning...do you realy believe all this?

Quote: I think that you are mistaking the present owners with the previous ones. GSE do not have a record of selling players cheap - fact.
Realy?...look who went out for nothing or was released in 2009/2010 season
Andy todd, Miles sterjovic,Liam Dickenson,Roy carrol,Martin Albrechstien,Claude davis(big one here £3 million and let go for free and GSE dont sell players cheap FACT realy think your getting mixed up a little derwentx dont you??????Jorden stewart, Jason beardsly,Giles barnes,Ruben Zarcovic,Gary teele,Jay Mceverly,Lee Hendrie,Paul Connely(leeds Unt free)ROB HULSE qpr £800,000 should of been at least £3 million after a year before Boro offered £6 million for him and hey you think GSE dont sell on the cheap FACT hey...in your dreams pal...lots and lots more i could quote you that were released or let go for peanuts, so a little less FACT after all your sentences ok.

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All clubs will have to live within their means - fact

Do you realy believe all clubs will abide by these rules? they will have all the top lawyers making sure they will have ways of getting around paying players what ever they will ask for so they will play for that certain club i.e. bonuses and each goal scored and so on...so it makes up for what ever there supposed to be earning,plus alot will open off shore accounts to hide money...there is so many ways round this new rule and if you dont see that Derwentx your a little bit dumber than i thought.

I can only take a few quotes from your long and boring post, so here is another one...

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Maybe we will see more home-grown talent, maybe a few kids actually born in the Derby area will play for us! But of course its a slow process and the attention span of many fans is the last match. There is no appetite for developing a young side over three or four years because money rules and fans want instant gratification.

See this is where i get the feeling your actually working for GSE because you believe in all the **** that you spill out onto this page. Listen all GSE and the owners are doing is getting there money back and once they have it they will sell up sharpish. Do you honestly believe that the academy players that are coming thru will stay at the club if the owners or GSE have thier way????? No because once we have a decent offer for them they will be gone...why are we going to sell Brayford(if reports are true int he paper) and also with Hughes and Bennett maybe on their way in the summer(again if rumours are true) whats the point of the Acedemy if we are going to sell our best assets????? I tell you why? because GSE and the owners will not put anymore money into DERBY COUNTY and they are just sucking the blood of of our club now every chance they can get and this is why I want them out and want new owners who can see the potential in this GREAT club of ours.
Glick who is no longer with us(thank God) said we would be a club that produces from the acedemy and wont be big spenders in the transfer markets anymore(living by our own means) so by selling our academics to the first decent offer and having to live off them means how are we ever going to move forward??????
so many questions and no proper answers just silly ones from fans like you derwentx that are very happy playing the waiting game and trusting in these owners who dont give a damn about Derby County FC”

“derwentx,i just need to vent my frustration on the board as i can sense disappointment looming,i hope all works out well come the end of the window in january and we have recruited not sold any of our assets or at least kept the same squad.
I just want the glory days of roy mcfarland,toddy, nish,archie,hector,hinton,big roger etc who i met last year in the pedigree suite to return or for at least for us to reached the promised land.
when you dont live near Derby you feel as if you are missing out or cant do anything to help.
Hope i`m making sense.
I realise we all want the same or we wouldn` post.”

“Bit surprised at Steve Nicholson quoting a senior member of the board (said this ) Why no name ?”

“Quote: 'come january if paper speculation is true ( theres no smoke without fire)then we may be selling Brayford for peanuts and more than likely selling Will Hughes ??'

As Arthur Cox would say 'this is all press speculation'. It's true, they have to fill the sports pages and most of it is pure rubbish. I wouldn't mind a grand for every player who was supposed to be leaving or arriving at Derby over the last two years.

Of course Hughes will attract bids from the top clubs if he stays clear of injury and continues to improve, as will every player in the side. Each bid will have to be judged on it's merits, as the old saying goes 'every player has his price'. The important thing is that Clough and the owners decide what's best for the club. Selling Hughes wouldn't be a disaster if the funds raised strengthened several areas of the side, sometimes management have to take tough decisions to move forward. Southampton are a prime example of a club who sold a promising player and came out the better for it.

As for demanding to see a board member the new Chief Executive has arranged a public meeting at Pride Park in January and more are planned if demand is high. Derby have been very good at meeting fans over the last four years, Glick always made himself available, the only Chief Executive who has for some years.

Re the question 'are the owners in it for money' there would be no point buying a football club if you didn't hope to get a return at some stage. That will be the case whoever is in charge at Derby, we are not a registered charity. However, there is no evidence that the flow of funds has been anything but inwards so far, with the owners covering our losses. We are not going to find a local fan with enough money to invest in in Derby County and fund the acquisition of players, even if the rules allowed it in future. The best we could hope for would be more foreign owners and we would just have to hope and prey that they didn't get us into more and more debt. At least GSE have had a permanent presence at Derby, they didn't try to run the club from afar.

I remember my mates, Notts County fans, being overjoyed when Munto Finance took over the club and employed Sven, that was until the club couldn't afford to pay the milk bill and people realised there was no money, it was all a con. I just wonder what is happening at Forest at the moment, things don't look quite so rosy there as they did in the summer. The Forest fans have stopped bragging about their big 'investors'.

Be careful what you wish for, there are a lot worse potential owners out there than GSE.”

“DerwentX, spot on. An educated analysis of what is going on in football as a whole and Derby County in particular. Keep trying to spread your words of wisdom. As we are in a new era of consciousness since 21.12.12, please try to take in what he is saying.”

“Ibelieveidi - you were the one, we won't sell Shackell, the manager and the board said we wont, then we did, what money did we get??, poor money, what other transfer fees have we received, virtually a loss on anyone else. Face it Clough and the board treat the fans with contempt, did we not just play Friday night to give the players more time to rest between games so to get better results, proof will be in the pudding.”

“DO we or dont we need to sell,that is the question,Rome wasn`t built in a day,we are slowly building a decent side,the best for some time,come january if paper speculation is true ( theres no smoke without fire)then we may be selling Brayford for peanuts and more than likely selling Will Hughes ??,so basically how can you do your job if your tools are taken away from you,a joiner or plumber cant so how can Nigel,i dont live in Derby but as previously posted i spend each year substantial monies gettting in as many games as possible,the latter is beside the point.
What i would be doing if living in or around the city is getting the Hardcore supporters to form a petition or banners saying keep our best players or similar words,or somehow demand to see a board representative to get to know whats going on,we have a right,if me and YOU especially dont pay at the ticket office the` PP` seats will be empty,surely the club realise you dont get anyway by selling,we dont want substantial debt but a little gamble might just pay off,the club is very thin on the ground without cutting again.
The fans will walk with their feet and the club will end up 16th-17th if better players are sold,it will rip the heart out of the team,no playmaker no chance of scoring.
What i would do is offload Wardy , ben davies and conor doyle if possible,the former as good as he has been at times is always injured,he is going the same way of Christie and RIggot did.
You RAMS in DERBY you need to get to know somehow,knock the doors down demand answers.
On saying what i have said,i hope i`m wrong and we keep everybody and add a proper striker that can score,not just hold the ball up,a holding centre mid and a experienced CB ) on loan ?? )
Let us pray.D.C.F.C .S.S.A”

“Just like old ladys over the garden fence on here.

When are some of you going to stop believing the tripe
such as the mirror and sun write...

Derby dont need to sell,look at the new made up names
posting about this on here,red bogs all the way...

And HOW anybody still buy that heap of s~~~ sun after its
terrble reporting on the Hillsborough disaster is beyond me...oh yeagh ,page 3
how pathetic...”