Derby hosting MP talks on aid to Pakistan in 'prestigious' visit

“Philanthropy by its very nature is giving to someone or something less fortunate WHEN YOU CAN AFFORD TO DO SO, so with the current state of the UK its clear we can't afford it, so lets stop all aid payments.
If people wan't to donate to a cause they can do so, but its their choice unlike the current aid programmes where we haven't any choice.”

“not at all BusinessOwner (John)
I don't need the £200 allowance as I can comfortably afford to pay my heating bills, I am fortunate that both myself and my wife earn good salaries and we choose to be sensible with our earnings, therefore how can I be jealous?

My point being, whilst I don't need it, neither apparently do alot of people that do receive it, as they then go and blow it on something other than paying their bills.

Do you have any comment on my previous comment, or any counter argument, or will you continue to just insult me without bringing any proper collaborated evidence to bolster your fictional scenarios as is your usual style?”

“You can be sure when an article like this appears that the ill-informed, judgemental, parochial and in some cases downright nasty racists hit their computer keyboards with venom and bile. How do these people know the money will go to fund nuclear weapons? If they are worried about spending money we can't afford, then I suggest that the Trident programme should be scrapped, saving many times the £450million quoted here. After all if it's ok for us to have nuclear weapons, then why not other countries?

Oh, and keep those negative votes coming, I find it fascinating that there are so many narrow minded unthinking people out there.”

“How can the UK justifiy parting with all these millions for a despot like Pakistan. What possible benefit can be to us bearing in mind the state of the UK ?”

“by Antony_Rol
"in addition most elderly people I know boast of having received their heating allowance and how they then p*ssed it up the wall on some luxury they could easily have done without, something I generally cannot afford myself"



So finally we get the REAL reason for your diatribes. You are envious because some members of society receive a £200 heating allowance and you dont.”

“If we give money to ANY country, we need to send people out with it to ensure EVERY PENNY
goes to where it is supposed to .

Also,any country that asks and receives aid should HAVE to pass a ''WORTHY CERTIFICATE'',
this means they have to show how /what they spent the money on .EACH AND EVERY TIME
they received aid going back 25 yrs.

Anybody found to be syphoning money off should be jailed ,and EVERY penny paid back.

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The expenses in government false claiming is similar but on a smaller scale,we have not
gone back far enough in my opinion to dig out money claimed that should not have been...”

“in addition most elderly people I know boast of having received their heating allowance and how they then p*ssed it up the wall on some luxury they could easily have done without, something I generally cannot afford myself”

“" The ONLY solution in cold weather such as at present is to run the heating 24 hours a day and stay inside.
Do you really think £200 will pay for that for an entire winter? If you do please tell us all who supplies your gas/electric because they are obviously a well kept secret. "

Currently Scottish Power, until last month it was EDF
See I make sure I switch to the cheapest tariff as often as I can, in addition everytime I switch I get sent either £30 or a case of wine from the switching websites ;) (I usually go for the wine, it has additional warming abilities)
My heating is "on" 24-7 all year round. I have a moderately efficient combi booiler (not a condensing one) and room thermostat, the boiler and rads are set to a medium setting and the thermostat set to 19-20 degrees, an optimum temperature
My gas (heating plus cooking) bill is around £50 a month averaged over the year (obviousl;y more in winter and almost zero in summer when its just cooking and hot water costs), so that £200 would last 4 months - or easily through winter
Keeping the heating on at a moderate temperature 24-7 is far more efficient than putting it on for an hour or two here and there, it keeps the house at a constant temperature easier, rather than using all the energy to bring it back up to temperature. Unfortunately a lot of people, and most old people do not realise this and use their heating intermitantly, at maximum setting. The house heats up quick, but then cools down quick and the cycle continues
Combined with cavity wall and loft insulation (both available free to most old people / those on benifits - whereas I had to pay for mine myself) my heating bills have probably declined over the last couple of years
So 'business Owner' (John) It can be done, it just needs a bit of savvy”

“"And heart failure does NOT qualify sufferers for any additional benefits payments as I have discovered when helping other sufferers to claim what little they can get."

As I suspected would be the case, you're not doing it right. I think now of all of those poor people who have lost out on their rightful benefits.”

“by Neo_MadBadger
"As I expected he would at some point, 'Business Owner' has come back with so much ill-informed nonsense that in no way addresses my points, nor Tintin's for that matter.



"ill informed" - really you are an arrogant pratt. I am far from ill informed on the subject of heart failure having defied the doctors by surviving with it for 4 years longer than they predicted.
How have I done that? By consulting every expert text there is on the subject and by joining support groups. So I suggest that before you write more arrogant tripe on the subject, you try learning about it first.
And heart failure does NOT qualify sufferers for any additional benefits payments as I have discovered when helping other sufferers to claim what little they can get.”