Philpott fire: Live updates from day 18 of the Derby manslaughter trial
The manslaughter trial of Derby parents Mick and Mairead Philpott, along with family friend Paul Mosley, enters its 18th day.
The trio is accused of killing the Philpotts' six children in a house fire in Victory Road, Derby, last May.
Day 18 of the trial
4.20pm The trial has now been adjourned until 10.15am tomorrow.
4.10pm DC Neads asked Mosley a number of questions about his sexual relationship with Mrs Philpott, most of which he gave "no comment" answers to. He said: "Mairead would just do anything Mick told her to."
4pm Mosley admitted to DC Neads that he, Philpott and Mairead had threesomes but would not say how long for. When asked if he also had a sexual relationship with Philpotts' ex-mistress Lisa Willis, Mosley answered: "No comment".
3.45pm In the statement to police, Mosley said he was told about the fire in a phone call from his brother, Bryan, who works as a security guard at the Royal Derby Hospital.
He said: "I got to the hospital and spoke to Bryan, Mick and Mick's brother, Kev. Mick was very upset."
In the same interview, Mosley told police that he voluntarily gave his DNA and fingerprints "to help the investigation".
3.40pm In a statement given to police on May 14, three days after the fire, Mosley said Philpott asked him to babysit at 1.30am, two hours before the fire.
Mosley said in the statement: "He wanted to get some space. He would normally go to a place near the river with Mairead. It upsets me greatly thinking I might have been in the house when the fire started and I wonder whether someone would have started that fire if Mick's van was not outside the house."
3.20pm The trial is taking a ten-minute break before DC Neads gives evidence.
3.15pm DC Neads' first interview with Mosley took place on June 20, after he was first arrested.
3.10pm Sgt James has now concluded her evidence. The trial is now going to hear from Detective Constable Maria Neads, who conducted interviews with the third defendant, Paul Mosley.
3pm James House, for the prosecution, said on the afternoon of May 30 Sgt James interviewed Mairead Philpott on three separate occasions. The first two lasted 38 minutes each and the final one eight minutes, where Mairead gave 'no comment' answers to each question put to her.
2.55pm In the police interview, Sgt James asked Mrs Philpott: "Is that the sort of threat Mick would be scared of?" Mairead answered: "No, but he was terrified of Lisa. One time she broke his nose play-fighting. He has always been scared of her. He would say 'Mairead, she wouldn't hurt no one but Lisa, I am scared of her'."
2.50pm In the police interview, Mairead Philpott said she overheard a telephone call between Mick Philpott and his ex-mistress Lisa Willis where her husband was threatened. Mairead said: "Mick put his mobile on loud speaker. Lisa said: 'Leave me, my sister and my family alone or I will kill you'. Mick just laughed and hung up."
2.45pm The court heard that Mrs Philpott said in the police interview that, on March 10, in Litton Drive, Spondon, she was threatened by Amanda Cousins in the street. She said Ms Cousins told her: "You are going to wish you had died when you took that overdose. I am going to kill you and your ******* brats."
2.40pm Mairead Philpott told the police of a day in April when Mick Philpott and his ex-mistress Lisa Willis were due in court to hear about a non-molestation order against him. Mairead offered to look after all the children. She said: "I offered to watch the kids. I said to Mick 'you two can sort it out and it will be nice to see the kids anyway'. But she [Ms Willis] refused."
2.30pm The trial is now hearing details of an interview Sgt Joanne James conducted with Mairead Philpott on May 30, the day after the Philpotts were arrested.
1pm Sgt Joanne James and James House, for the prosecution, read statements from the police interviews which took place on May 29 and 30.
Sgt James reads her part and and James House reads the part of Mairead.
Mrs Philpott tells the police she would not let the children play at the front of the house. "I like them to play in the back, I'm too protective."
Mairead, in the statement, said Paul Mosley smoked some cannabis on the night of the fire but neither she or her husband did.
"Me, Mick and Adam from down the road went to get the cannabis for him. Adam went out the door first, then me then Mick. We did not lock the door because Paul was in the house."
Sgt James said: "Did you or Mick change your clothing at all that night?"
Mrs Philpott said: "No."
Sgt James said: "So from the time you and Mick picked up the kids from school earlier in the afternoon neither of you changes your clothes?"
Mrs Philpott said: "No, never."
Mrs Philpott said as they lay in bed they discussed the custody court case.
"We were happy, we thought we were going to get to see the children."
"I was woken by the smoke alarm going off. I thought `What the hell is going on?' It was like a constant screaming noise'.
"I did not go in the lounge, Mick wouldn't let me. He said: `You can't, there's a fire'."
Mrs Philpott, in interview, said Mick Philpott then climbed a ladder and tried to smash the back window of the bedroom where Jade slept.
"I was just screaming hysterically in the garden."
Sgt James asked Mrs Philpott what happened at the front of the house. She answered: "I started screaming and neighbours Jenny and Lucy grabbed me. Mick was outside trying to get in."
Sht James asked Mrs Philpott: "Is that something Mick told you after or something you saw yourself?".
Mrs Philpott said: "It was something I saw."
Mrs Philpott said she was taken into a neighbour's house, Frachesca Blavins, at 19 Victory Road.
She said: "It felt like forever. Mick was there, he was crying saying he had seen the kids being brought out.
"He said five or six police were stopping him from getting to them.
"I was saying `I want my babies' but I did not see them being bought out of the house."
Sgt James asked Mrs Philpott: "What are your thoughts about how this fire started?"
Mrs Philpott said: "I don't know."
Sgt James said: "Nothing went through your head?"
Mrs Philpott said: "No."
Asked by police if she knew anyone who had any grudges against her or her husband, Mrs Philpott said: "Only Lisa's sister Amanda. She threatened me a couple of month before the fire. That's why I have been too scared to go out or go to work."
Mrs Philpott was asked about the domestic situation in the house before Ms Willis left. She said: "For the past three or four years I felt like a housemaid. Mick took Lisa everywhere and left me with all the kids. Lisa was just there for herself."
Yesterday the trial heard that asked in a police interview on the day he was arrested for six counts of murdering his children if he was responsible for starting the fire, Mick Philpott replied: "Watch these eyes, categorically no."
Philpott also said that he wished he had gone "to the morgue" in place of the children.
In the interview, Philpott claimed to detectives that his former mistress, Lisa Willis, hit their children.
The 56-year-old also said he treated Ms Willis "like a queen" for four years, neglecting his wife, Mairead.
Mick and Mairead Philpott deny the manslaughter of their children, Duwayne, 13, Jade, 10, John, nine, Jack, seven, Jesse, six, and five-year-old Jayden.
All died following the blaze at their home in Allenton last year.
A third defendant, Paul Mosley also denies six counts of manslaughter.
Philpott sobbed in the dock at Nottingham Crown Court yesterday as his police interviews were read out.
Detective Sergeant Steve Barnes, who arrested both the Philpotts, read out the questions he asked Philpott over three interviews at Ripley police station on May 29 last year.
Philpott's answers were read out by James House, for the prosecution. The interview started with the events on the morning of the fire.
Philpott said: "I tried more than once to get in the house. I put a ladder up to Jade's window and tried to smash it with a tennis racket and then a socket set.
"The glass broke but there was too much smoke.
"I wish it had got in, then it would be me in the morgue and not my kids."
Philpott said he and his wife were naked when they were woken by the smoke alarm.
He said he went through from the conservatory where they were sleeping to the lounge where he saw the fire.
He said: "There was a popping noise. It must have been the glass breaking."
Philpott then told officers how he put the ladder up to Jade's window before climbing it.
In the same interview he went on to tell the police that he, Mairead and neighbour Adam Taylor had been to buy some cannabis for Mosley at about 9.30pm on the night before the blaze.
He denied that either he or his wife smoked the drug and said that he had left Mosley to look after the children while they went to buy the cannabis in Marlborough Road.
He said: "I wouldn't leave the kids with Adam because he is an alcoholic.
"I don't think it's right to leave your kids with an alcoholic in charge."
The second and third interviews, which took place on the same afternoon, May 29, focused on Ms Willis walking out in him and taking their five children in February last year.
Philpott told the police: "I was upset about Lisa leaving and Jade knew this.
"She was distraught because she went from having three sisters to being the only girl.
"We called her (Jade) Mother Hen. She would come over and stroke Mairead and I's hair.
"I treated Lisa like a queen.
"For the past four years I have given her all my attention and none to my wife, I don't know why.
"I feel bad about that now."
Philpott went on to tell the police that he was unsure why Ms Willis had chosen to walk out on him and Mairead taking the children with her.
He said: "I still have no idea to this day why she left, to this day I have no idea.
"At first I blamed Mairead for a bit then I realised it was down to Lisa.
"She said she did not want Mairead to be the mother to her children.
"Mairead brought all the kids up, not Lisa.
"I wanted my kids back, my kids are everything to me, my kids are my life, you don't understand that," he told the officers in the interviews.
Philpott was then asked to describe the relationship Ms Willis had with the six children he had with Mairead.
He said: "It was nothing but love.
"Lisa only spent around and hour and a half a night with all the kids, it was Mairead that brought them all up.
"I love Mairead, I always have done."
Philpott then told the police that he had been told of incidents where Ms Willis had struck the four children he had with her.
He said: "I wish I had not met Lisa 10 years ago because Mairead is such a good woman,
"People have told me that when I was out, say taking Mairead to work or bringing her home, she (Ms Willis) struck the kids, especially Kirk and Yawrey (two of Philpott's children with Ms Willis) because they could be little b******s.
"I was told she threw them across the room.
"I confronted her about it and she said she would not do it again.
"I don't let no-one touch my kids, I don't care who you are.
"When she (Ms Willis) had a drink she was a different person. She once hit me and broke my nose."
Philpott was interviewed seven times in two days before he was finally charged on May 30, the day before police taped him telling his wife to "stick to" their story.
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