Parents tried to sue over a falling conker

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Thursday, February 10, 2011
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A PARENT tried to sue Derby City Council after a conker fell on their daughter's head in the school playground.

The case was one of scores of spurious claims which are costing council tax-payers more than £40,000 a year to defend.

Lawyers working for the authority are having to deal with about 150 cases annually – yet only a handful are ever proven and compensation payments made.

Some of the more outrageous claims include one from a man who jumped over a foot-high wall late at night only to discover that there was a six-foot drop on the other side. Shoppers have also sued for slipping on cabbage leaves and grapes in the city's markets and a dog walker took legal action when the pet stepped on glass while off the lead.

The most bizarre case of all involved the school pupil's family who claimed for personal injury after the girl was hit by the falling conker – an action that was attacked by a leading city councillor as "frivolous".

Sean Marshall, cabinet member in charge of resources, said: "I lived in America for seven years and it has a massive blame-claim culture over there and now I see it coming over here and some of the claims are absolutely ridiculous.

"People may think it comes out of the insurance companies' pockets but somebody pays for it in higher premiums, and for the council that person is the taxpayer of Derby.

"If there is a genuine claim for something that's happened, fair enough, but when we start looking at frivolous things like a conker falling then common sense has gone out of the window."

The council has handed over responsibility for processing claims to lawyers at Zurich Municipal.

It has to pay the company a flat rate of £40,000 a year to do this, but points out the number of claims has fallen since the five-year contract with Zurich was signed three years ago.

In 2008-9 – the latest period for which figures are available – the firm processed 133 claims and paid out in six cases, a total of £2,311.

The pay-out was £25,000 in 2007-9, with claims at 147.

In 2004-5 there were 150 claims, with 34 settled and payments totalling £176,000 made.

The Zurich contract covers the cost of instructing a solicitor where necessary, appointing specialist claims inspectors and carrying out checks where claims are considered possibly fraudulent.

A spokesman for the council said: "We believe this cost – which is part of a five-year contract we are in the middle of – offers excellent value for money."

Council leader Harvey Jennings said he still found it frustrating that the council had to spend money on fighting spurious claims.

"It is unfortunate the authority has to defend itself against frivolous claims for compensation," he said.

"The money it costs to defend these claims should be spent delivering the services that the community requires and needs."

Solicitors say the impression of a claim culture is misleading, however.

Tom Jones, a partner at Thompsons Solicitors in Derby – experts in personal injury claims – said: "There is a perception that everyone is suing for everything but our experience is it doesn't happen like that.

"There are, of course, some people who come with cases and we have to look at a case and ask whether that would succeed and ultimately if our view is a judge would kick it out, there is no point in proceeding."

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    by Michael, Derby

    Friday, February 11 2011, 8:47AM

    “When I was a lad a conker fell out of the tree and hit me, I took it home made a hole in the middle put a shoe lace through it with a knot at one end and thrashed all my mates in a conker fight; happy days.”

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    by Sue me, if you dare!

    Thursday, February 10 2011, 11:50PM

    “Conker won then. Ha ha ha ha ha!!!”

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    by Mister Viv, Mackworth

    Thursday, February 10 2011, 9:12PM

    “I remember once breaking wind at school- nowadays I'd be sued for the repairs.........”

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    by Grumpy Old Hiltonian, Hilton

    Thursday, February 10 2011, 8:53PM

    “Never heard anything so pathetic. Would find it amusing if these people weren't trying to rip us off. Why don't we just name and shame them that would put em off!”

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    by Paul, Littleover

    Thursday, February 10 2011, 7:47PM

    “Compensation was put in place for a reason. Without protection we would still have slave labour and dangerous working conditions.”

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    by Jim, Matlock

    Thursday, February 10 2011, 5:02PM

    “How is a claim that is denied as having no merit and example of health and safety gone mad? If anything it gives me cause to have a bit of faith!

    While I am no fan of no win no fee cases, the alternative for those with genuine claims and limited funds, will mean going cap in hand to an insurance company (who I gather will deny any claim as a matter of course) or simply putting up with the injury/financial cost of some prat's incompetence. I have claimed in the past for a car accident following which i was off work for 8 weeks. The person who pulled out in front of me told his insurers that it was my fault for speeding. My insurers (who were also the other person insurers told me i should accept partial responsiblitgy and a reduction in my lost earnings) thankfully i went to a decent lawyer who did not charge me and quickly told the insurers where to get off.”

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    by james brown, Derby

    Thursday, February 10 2011, 4:48PM

    “She didn;t win the case - how is that Health and Safety gone mad? If anything it shows behind the attention grabbing headline it is not as simple as having accident and waiting for a cheque.
    Those that call for the end of compensation / no win no fee will be thinking rather differently should they have a genuine accident and need legal help to find redress, or do they propose dealing with the insurers who will deny pretty much any claim as a matter of course and funding and navigating the court process on their own?
    There's something about turkey voting for Christmas here....”

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    by SHARON, Derby

    Thursday, February 10 2011, 2:46PM

    “I had an accident in PE on the last day of term in December, 1981 where I broke my arm running backwards in team games, the problem was 2 other pupils had done exactly the same in the weeks before me and after Christmas a lad broke his leg, we didn't even think about suing the school or the council we just asked the school to ban running backwards. My parents were furious as this happened at 9.15am and they kept me at school all day at this time school didn't finish until 4pm!!!!!!

    As long as people get away with claiming for stupid things they will carry on doing so - I'm surprised they haven't tried suing the conker, more to the point I hope the conkers alright Hahaha”

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    by Rumpole, The Bailey

    Thursday, February 10 2011, 2:16PM

    “Scrounger goes to solicitor, solicitor sets legal wheels in motion knowing he's onto a win/win job. Where in that equation are politicians?”

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    by Ben, Spondon

    Thursday, February 10 2011, 2:15PM

    “I wonder if I can claim for rain falling on my head and getting it wet??? and what about all those leafs on my drive way from all those trees.
    Must be worth millions!! ;-)”

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