Rams fans' panel: Ben Frearson shares his thoughts on Derby County

“Thank you Steve for those comments. I think a cat has got Mr Rush's tongue when it comes to information flow. I do not call it spin I call it b......t what he has uttered since he arrived.
Financial losses of £8M per annum is a disastrous figure and if it hurts GSE that much then they must have the resources to withstand this level of loss. The club from top to bottom requires scrutiny and certainly financial transparency to ensure the paying supporters are able to make their decision as whether they wish to remain as customers of DCFC. Increasing prices for loyal supporters is just one strategy that defies belief. They have not been informed of what they are paying more for nor what to expect for next season. I am and always be a Rams supporter albeit from a distance but regeneration is required before it is too late!”

“stivians11,most sensible post on here,tell us Rushy whats going in.
My guess will be that NC will be forced to sell Hughes, brayford and maybe Hendrick if any offers come in to generate funds to replace with lesser quality players just like he did with shackell and davies for keogh and that useless lump of lard tyson who some posters actually believed in.
we will end up after more player juggling exactly where we are now,no mans land.
some radical shake up needs to happen close season or fans will be lost for good.
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“I think the general consensus is NC has done a good job to get us here, we are all frustrated that he can't move us onto a play off play and we basically dont want another year of waiting.

The other spin might be that the board may have to make a decision based on finances. If season ticket renewals are x thousand down, equalling x millions, they may make a change in the hope of getting those fans back or else face the prospect of making a bigger loss?”

“We are Derby County so for goodness sake forget the recent past of 4 years odd and make a decision for the future. Money,investment,old players,new players what we should have done and did not are to blame for the present position of DCFC. We could go on all day and night of what should have been(which some do)but the future is the decision which no one at the club appears unable to make to actually inform the paying public. Mr Rush you should be telling the fans what lies ahead,what the clubs ambitions are and what will paying fans have to look forward to for the rest of the season and beyond. I suspect you do not have an idea and you will always remain under the radar when football decisions are made. If I worked for GSE and got the type of comments and accusations from the paying public I would want to put the record straight which means under investment is obviously one of the clubs problems.”

“I have no problem with taking punts on the likes of Freeman, Hoganson, Naylor, Pringle etc as (has been said before) they cost next to nothing and you just never know.

But these players need to supplement the 'bigger' signings - and instances such as the Maguire deal are very irritating. To invest so much time into signing a player to then never give him a proper chance seems daft enough. Yes, that course of action may now be vindicated considering that Maguire is doing nowt at Wednesday - BUT when you consider that the £400k we spent on Maguire (big money by our poor standards now) could've been spent on a far stronger prospect in Adam Le Fondre when he was at Rotherham, you have to question the scouting and logic at the club.

I could see it, others could see it, Reading could see it. DCFC, seemingly..... couldn't.”

“Long Eaton - add up the cost of the players that you call failures, then subtract the fees we got when we sold some of them. The balance wouldn't buy a cup of tea at half time. One player in the Leicester squad probably cost more than the whole lot of them put together. Based on what they cost players like Ward, Robinson, Ben Davies, Buxton etc etc have actually been a success and they owe us nothing. As for players like Pringle and Naylor we took a gamble on lads from non league football, they didn't make the grade with us but they cost tuppence so who cares. Martin, Moxey, Maguire were sold for virtually what we paid. As for not giving them a chance I wouldn't have a siingle one of them back at Derby, including Moxey.

We bought a fair number of them when we were desperate for bodies, when we had a club full of sicknotes. They did a job and stopped us plummeting through the leagues, and they cost next to nothing, so it wasw mission accomplished.

The squad now has several players who are worth very decent money so in that regard Clough has been a success in developing talent.”

“Unless you have a player whom can win you a game out of nothing, such as Kris Commons, you are relient on the team working as unit. Getting the basics right is a prerequisite. Away from home we are a shambles. We can not defend to save our lives. The main reason for this is that our defenders both, individually and collectively are not good enough. Buxton and Roberts are honest triers but that is not enough. Our ability to defend set- pieces is woeful. The finger must be pointed at the coaching staff. Our tactics and formations during games never seem to work. Hoofing the ball 30 yards to a player whom is incapable of holding on to it is pointless as it just comes straight back at you. Every manager in world football makes at least one substitution on the hour (more if you are losing) with the exception of ours. Lee Clarke did this to great effect on Saturday. We seem to have no plan A or plan B.
After many years of following the Rams, I do not think I am going to re-new this year. I am totally dis-illusioned.”

“I'm not the biggestation Clough fan, but I think he's. Done well with transfers. People like pringle were a cheap punt and worth a risk. Barker was a great signing and unlucky with injuries. I take umbridge with some of the comments here. Keogh is nother as good as Shackell and has been full of errors particularly recently. Have no problem with Sammon works his socks off, pulls defenders around, and in truth he was only 600k plus add ons. If they're for goals we're quids in. Twenty years ago we paid more for a striker. I Dont understand the reaction of some fans to him. And we haven't improved to a play-offs side. The table at the end of the season doesn't lie. 12th is the best we've done and we don't look likely to beat it this season. I do think Clough has done some good things, but I just don't believe he can take us further, and it's. Probably time for a change. Obviously I'd likethe owners to splash some cash, but I'm a realist, it's. Not going to change anytime soon, so the manager is the only variable left. I know ibelieveido doesn't. Think so but he's rapidly becomimg part of a small minority.”

“Every manager has bought players that fail the grade.

just dont live up to expecations,can't step up to the level
required.
It makes me smile how many people think they know better,
but really know NOTHING like it.
Unless you have a crystal ball ,are able to be stuck on the ceiling
allowing you to listen in to conversations between manager and player,
and vise versa you know absolutely NOTHING re falling out with players,
it's forever easy in hindesight ,something YOU seem to have plenty of.
Moxey,a decent player but i seem to remember him getting skinned when palace came to P.P.
Maguire since he went to S.WED has done nothing and is out on loan i do believe.
Porter ,injury plagued him but i suppose you will blame N.C for that too.
Doyle shows in training,reserve games , cannot ''do it'' in the champ.
Deeney...?
Pringle...didn't make the grade after good promise.
Croft...similar.
Naylor,out on loan,still has a chance.
Anderson,did very well when not inj.
Cywka...not good enough as Reading found out.
Bailey...decent player but perhaps needs this loan to sort his game out.
Riggott,worth a punt for what it cost.
Martin ?
Robinson...showed early promise but not a footballer,well not at this level.
Tyson...ditto.
Misstreated aye ...hahaha , more crystal ball stuff .
and dont even go there with Barker ,an excellent signing and RAMS thru and thru.”

“Every manager has bought players that fail the grade.

just dont live up to expecations,can't step up to the level
required.
It makes me smile how many people think they know better,
but really know NOTHING like it.
Unless you have a crystal ball ,are able to be stuck on the ceiling
allowing you to listen in to conversations between manager and player,
and vise versa you know absolutely NOTHING re falling out with players,
it's forever easy in hindesight ,something YOU seem to have plenty of.
Moxey,a decent player but i seem to remember him getting skinned when palace came to P.P.
Maguire since he went to S.WED has done nothing and is out on loan i do believe.
Porter ,injury plagued him but i suppose you will blame N.C for that too.
Doyle shows in training,reserve games , cannot ''do it'' in the champ.
Deeney...?
Pringle...didn't make the grade after good promise.
Croft...similar.
Naylor,out on loan,still has a chance.
Anderson,did very well when not inj.
Cywka...not good enough as Reading found out.
Bailey...decent player but perhaps needs this loan to sort his game out.
Riggott,worth a punt for what it cost.
Martin ?
Robinson...showed early promise but not a footballer,well not at this level.
Tyson...ditto.
Misstreated aye ...hahaha , more crystal ball stuff .
and dont even go there with Barker ,an excellent signing and RAMS thru and thru.”