'We'll press on with lights switch-off'

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Tuesday, February 14, 2012
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PLANS to switch off up to 40,000 of Derbyshire's streetlights between midnight and 5.30am will not be affected by news that a similar scheme in Swindon has failed.

Tory-led Derbyshire County Council said the move would cut £400,000 a year from its energy bill and reduce its annual carbon output by 2,000 tonnes.

It said the switch-off would take three or four years, starting in April and taking place in separate areas at different times.

But Labour has been battling the change, calling it a "thieves' charter".

Now Councillor Howard Griffiths, leader of the Labour opposition at Erewash Borough Council, has called on the county authority to take heed of what has happened in Swindon.

Swindon Borough Council has reversed its decision to switch off lights after a trial proved unpopular. Councillor Rod Bluh said: "If something is universally unpopular and there is no public support we do listen to residents."

Mr Griffiths said the part-night lighting plan was "daft". He said: "The Tories should take a lesson from wiser heads in Swindon and reverse this reckless decision now."

A county council spokeswoman said: "Cabinet decided to introduce part night lighting based on 69% of respondents being in favour of the plans and following a detailed equalities impact assessment. We're always interested to see what other councils are doing but we're continuing with our plans to introduce part night lighting."

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    by canykl

    Tuesday, February 14 2012, 10:50PM

    “why did they get rid of the old lights, these new 1s are a waste of time and if the coucil really wants to save money then they should look closer to home an make the cuts there. councilors wages reduced for a start!”

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    by FCPEE

    Tuesday, February 14 2012, 5:17PM

    “This lighting cut is all about saving money and not saving lives. It will not save any carbon emissions at all. To save carbon emissions you need to turn off a power station or two. Unfortunately very few power stations can be turned on and off very quickly. It normally takes about four days to run a power station down and another 11 days to refire it.
    I doubt if very much money will be saved either as I can see the power suppliers simply charging the same price for the electricity used between the shorter hours as for the longer useage.
    This is a backward step and a waste of resources.”

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    by welsh_liar

    Tuesday, February 14 2012, 5:03PM

    “Good news for the environment.”

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    by welsh_liar

    Tuesday, February 14 2012, 5:03PM

    “Good news for the environment.”

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    by DDPridePark

    Tuesday, February 14 2012, 4:33PM

    “Believe it or not - NOT EVERYONE ONE USING THE STREETS ARE IN A CAR - they are walking around without headlights and will be in the dark. There is no significant difference in darkness - it is the same everywhere.”

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    by JonBoyWalton

    Tuesday, February 14 2012, 3:46PM

    “The scheme in Swindon sounds significantly different to the proposals by Derbyshire CC.

    The lights in Swindon were permanently turned off, not just at certain times, and the roads affected were all non-residential with no footpaths or cycle paths - i.e. motor vehicles only.

    Last time I checked all motor vehicles came equipped with lighting for the vehicle driver to use during the hours of darkness. I wonder exactly what people's complaint of their switch off were? Maybe the response is more due to the big signs they put up that said 'these lights have been turned off to save money'. Perhaps they should have said 'By turning these lights off we have reduced your council tax bill by £10. P.S. use your headlights'...”

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    by DDPridePark

    Tuesday, February 14 2012, 3:06PM

    “Having no street lighting is a massive backwards step in civilised society today. People just don't realise how dark it can be with no lighting, no moon, cloudy, rainy conditions.It will be sheer hell.”

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    by Derby_Stu

    Tuesday, February 14 2012, 12:11PM

    “I actually agree with part of what stephen says. LED lighting technology is the big new thing, the savings in terms of usage are dramatic BUT, they are costly to buy so only as a long term solution would they be viable.

    This situation however is a short term solution to cash flow. I just wonder how much this assessment cost??

    Also I can just see the residents on stephen's street now, lining it with fairly lights before the big switch off, lol!!!!!!”

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    by janine2011

    Tuesday, February 14 2012, 9:55AM

    “What was the point in an consultation? These consultations are always expensive, and it looks like the council had already decided they were going ahead with turning out the lights. Wouldn't you think they would learn from others who have tried it and said it was a failure?”

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    by stephen192

    Tuesday, February 14 2012, 9:49AM

    “If Derbyshire County Council replaced the Orange lights with white lights used in Derby City they would save 40% of their annual electric bill and if LED white lights added over 75% of the Electric bill would be saved.

    Derbyshire County Council should plan to replace all street lights over a ten year period to white lights will shave money with increasing price of electricity and if the council fitted Solar panel LED lights the saving will be higher and people with be safer at night.

    I believe turning off the lights between 12 and 5.30am is wrong because people work shifts and finish at around 11.00pm and they often take their dog for a walk before going to bed thats around 12.30am.
    People go out on the evening at Weekends should have protection coming home on late buses or taxis and at weekends lights should remain on until 2am.

    residents may be forced to introduce their own street lights to provide protection and safety that operate after 12.00am at night causing an increase in domestic bills for night lights. I believe the Council should not turn the lights off in a street. For example if a street have six lights turn 2 lights off or three lights off if other lights produce white light.”

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