So when will the bus station open?
CONFUSION surrounds the opening date for Derby's bus station – even as it is on the verge of being handed over to the city council.
Developer David Osborne says he is ready to give the multi-million pound development's keys to the authority, in line with a promise to finish by the end of November.
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The new bus station
But Councillor Lucy Care, cabinet member for planning and transportation, says it should have been ready by November 10.
And, she says, the delay means the bus station cannot open to the public until February at the earliest, rather than the January date she stated earlier this year.
But, in a further twist, bus company officials claim they have been led to believe by the council for "some time" that the bus station would not be open until March.
Mr Osborne, who is building the bus station as part of the £100m Riverlights complex complete with hotels, a casino and restaurants, said the bus station would have been completed by November 10 but his firm has been installing extra furnishings at the request of the council.
The project has been dogged with difficulties since planning permission was first granted in 1997.
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by Chris, Derby
Wednesday, December 02 2009, 1:30PM
“David, Littleover, you accuse Derby people of apathy and say nothing was done to try to stop this type of development.
This is clearly not the case as 16,000 people signed a petition to save the old bus station.
The problemis that we have people like "Plautus" who welcome the destruction of heritage in exchange for cheap, nasty and tasteless developments. Time will tel, but I expoect the "Plautuses" of this city to be rather disappointed at the final outcome of this fiasco over the bus station, and the rest of us will be shoutig "We told you so"!”
by Jo, Derbys
Wednesday, December 02 2009, 11:49AM
“I did hear from one letter writer that questionaires had been sent out to Derby residents, asking their opinions of Cityscape?
I wonder if the results will be become public?
Somehow I doubt it.”
by Plautus, Derby
Tuesday, December 01 2009, 3:45PM
“Jury's Inn, The Quad, Cathedral Green and now the new Bus Station. At last! Derby is beginning to feel like a vibrant modern city with these iconic developments. The old bus station was miserable, sqalid and dirty; a relatively undistinguished, poor example of the glories of Art Deco.
Of course we should have a clear indication of when the facility should open, but don't just blithely blame the 'city council'. This is another example of the dithering icompetence of the Lib Dems and their lack of a coherent vision for the future of our great city.
Stop whinging, celebrate the diversity of our cityscape and look forward to even more ambitious developments. We might even get rid of that ramshackle old theatre in Green Lane!”
by charlie, Derby
Tuesday, December 01 2009, 3:42PM
“If the bus station is ready with it's bays and stuff marked out it can and should be used. I know Northwest England's situation is an Emergency but they have built and opened a temporary railway station to help the people of workington if that can be done in an emergency then there's no reason why this already built bus station can't be open say a week before Christmas that gives then at least double the time they took in Workington.”
by burtonftw, derby
Tuesday, December 01 2009, 3:16PM
“the place is built as a shambles that will need constant investment and consultants for a reason - it was written into the contract.
how do you think the country had racked up a near £40bn of debt before the public at large were made aware of the credit bubble? councils cannot afford to invest in building new bus stations, so they get the investment from private enterprise who lock in hundreds of clauses to ensure that the councils will continue to deal with them and their companies of choice for a set term (the norm is around 25 years). then people are surprised when consultants need to be brought in to farces like the hospital parking (the consultants were part of the plan all along, councillors are that daft, but the private enterprise that takes advantage of the offers on the table that the government has allowed aren't).
mark my words, within a year of this new bus stations opening, consultants will be in to sort out the 'issues', and not long after there will be more devlopment work. not only that, but all the money to pay for it will be as a result of QE which will keep the shackles round the next generation for, well, a generation.
the whole thing stinks.”
by Major Chord, Littleover
Tuesday, December 01 2009, 3:06PM
“Roger, Warrington has itself little architecturally to commend it. Perhaps Derby seems like a dream spoilt for Mick in Warrington.”
by david, Littleover
Tuesday, December 01 2009, 3:03PM
“Well said Warrington Mick and supported by others with the same views.
"It is a vile pile with no style" .
As for a casino well , how low can you stoop to pander to a socially destructive industry which feeds off the less wealthy and less bright?
Interesting to learn how many buses the old Morledge bus station handled. The current layout has buses reversing out of bays before moving off. How efficient is that?
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by Mick McDermott, Warrington
Tuesday, December 01 2009, 2:40PM
“People of Derby - you only have yourselves to blame for the characterless cityscape you've replaced the old town with.
Through apathy you now have a city that doesn't have any character and looks the same as all of the others.
Enjoy!”
by Angela, Derby
Tuesday, December 01 2009, 2:33PM
“We are forgetting the main reason the bus was demolished, and that was to give planning permission for hotels and a casino, the bus station was built to appease the public, there was never any intention of building one suitable to house all the buses that run from Derby, it would have been too expensive and to modernise the Art Deco one wouldn't have given enough space to build the others that were going up. The buses that will run from there will be the ones from the Morlege, going to Alvaston, Allenton and areas that way, the others will continue to go from Victoria Street as they go to Mackworth, Littleover, Burton, Mickeover, if they go from the Bus Station they would add to journey times and so raise fares as well. It remains to see if I am right, we will no doubt find out when the place is finally up and running.”
by John H, Spondon, Derby
Tuesday, December 01 2009, 2:31PM
“It looks as if everybody is blaming everybody else re the bus station,
NOTHING CHANGES”