Why are so many pubs being shut across the city and how can we save them?

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IT was a reluctant decision that one former landlord Rick Brewster was forced to make when he was faced with soaring gas and electricity bills and fewer and fewer customers.

In February, he closed the doors of the Swan and Salmon, making barmaid Anne Smith redundant after 43 years.

It was just three years after Rick took over the pub with dreams of turning into a thriving watering hole. The Ashbourne Road venue is now to be transformed into flats and a convenience store.

Rick said: "It was devastating, really. I had to let Anne go after all those years and I had invested a lot of time and money into the pub. I had put in new carpets and had totally refitted the kitchen.

"But the spiralling costs of electricity and gas and the smoking ban meant that it got to the point where I had more money going out than was going in.

"Customers would say, 'it's nothing against you, Rick, but we can sit at home and watch the football and smoke' and they could get cans for next to nothing from the supermarket."

But Rick is not alone. In the past year, 13 pubs in Derby have either closed temporarily or permanently or been turned into flats.

And there are now fewer pubs in Derby than at any point since the Second World War with just 168 still operating as drinking holes.

As a result, traditional pub crawls like the famous Derby Mile along Ashbourne Road are no longer as popular as they once were.

The figures for pub closures come from the East Midlands branch of the Campaign For Real Ale, which says the only comfort that can be taken from its recent survey of the pub trade in the city is that pubs which specialise in cask ale have fared better than most.

John Arguile, from Camra, said much of the downturn in pubs' profits was as a result of cut-price alcohol being sold by supermarkets.

He said: "The net result of this upheaval is that Derby has fewer pubs than any time since 1945.

"It does, however, leave space for the dozen or so expected licences planned for the Riverlights development.

"So, is this what the city planners had in mind in allowing the decimation of our existing pub stock?

"The only redeeming feature, from the Camra angle, is that cask ale pubs have fared better than pubs generally."

This is evidenced in the fact that the Greyhound, in Ashbourne Road, is soon to be transformed into a real ale pub by father-and-son team Trevor and Paul Harris.

They are behind the Derby Brewing Company, which runs the thriving Brewery Tap at The Royal Standard, which they reopened 18 months ago.

Trevor said the secret to running a successful pub was selling a unique product and hard work.

He said: "We are in a quality beer market and, incredibly, we are finding that sales are going up, not down. People can't buy a quality, cast conditioned product from the supermarket.

"But the general picture is quite scary and the Government has not helped. They should be supporting pubs but instead they are making things more difficult. If I were to sum up the Government's and the pub trade's performance this year, I would say: Must try harder."

And Camra agrees. Julian Tubbs, Camra's East Midlands regional director, said a pub's success was down to who was at the helm., adding: "If the right people are running a pub, it will do well.

"It is all about getting the right people in."

Other pubs to have closed their doors in recent months include the Angler's Arms in Nottingham Road, Spondon, the Blue Pool in Stenson Road, Sunny Hill, and the Cock and Bull in Sinfin Lane, Derby.

There is some positive news for Chellaston residents, as the Lawns Hotel, which recently closed, is being renovated with new owners hoping to open a restaurant in the spring.

Mr Tubbs said: "The picture in Derby is not as bad as you might think from the gossip, but it is worrying.

"The Osmaston Road area is really bad. There is now not one pub between the ring road and the city centre – that is a big hole in the community."

Mr Tubbs put the pubs' demise down to the loss of football trade in the area and the decline of lunchtime drinking by Rolls-Royce employees – and he was particularly concerned about pubs being converted into convenience stores.

His fears follow the transformation of the Blue Pool into a Tesco Express.

Residents living nearby complained that they were not consulted.

That is because pubs and convenience shops are in the same planning class, meaning that developers do not need to apply for a change of use.

He said: "Camra has been lobbying the Government for some time to create a single-use class for public houses, so that conversion to food stores and takeaways can't happen without serious consideration of the community loss. So far we have not been rewarded with success.

"Another thing that is currently lacking is any protection for community pubs in the city's structure plan.

"It has already been pointed out recently that a high percentage of the pubs in the Sinfin/Littleover, Osmaston, Allenton and Alvaston areas are currently under some sort of threat.

"That is in addition to the previous losses – the Football Tavern, Arboretum, Barley Mow and Nightingale – which has left the A514 without a functioning pub from the Spot right through to Allenton."

But Richard Williams, assistant director of regeneration and communities at Derby City Council, said the council did have some powers in terms of granting restrictions on the future use of new pubs.

He added however, that the authority was bound by national planning legislation when restricting the change of use of existing pubs to other uses such as shops and restaurants.

He said: "Pubs and convenience stores are in the same planning class, and so change-of-use permission is not needed by developers, and therefore there is little, if any, consultation with local residents.

"We're aware of the current economic challenges facing the pub trade in recent years but we also have a responsibility to grant permissions for any venture that provides economic regeneration in a locality.

"Of course, pubs are often a significant element of the local street scene, so wherever possible we encourage owners and occupiers to retain the external features of the buildings."

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    by Derek, Teesdale, Co Durham

    Friday, January 01 2010, 3:32PM

    “"The only redeeming feature, from the Camra angle, is that cask ale pubs have fared better than pubs generally." Why because there are too many landlords, who should not be in the trade. I live in County Durham, my local pub/micro-brewery serves Marstons Pedigree, the quality and taste is far superior to many pubs serving the same drink just 10 miles from the Marstons Brewery. its not all about karioki, bouncy castles and lager.”

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    by Glyn, Breaston

    Friday, January 01 2010, 3:11PM

    “Why does everyone insist on blaming the smoking ban??
    Ive worked in both brewery AND pub and in my local, the same old faces are still there and they now go outside for a fag!!
    I blame lack of disposable income.. Nothing more!
    As for the supermarkets, its cheap, but hey, you cant beat a draught pint!!”

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    by malcolm, Spondon

    Friday, January 01 2010, 2:15PM

    “Sorry to say but I still blame it on the smoking ban.”

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    by Major Chord, Littleover

    Friday, January 01 2010, 1:05PM

    “Very complex problem. Causes are perhaps (no particular order of importance):-
    1. Smoking Ban.
    2. Tied House issue(rents too high margins too small).
    3. Undermotivated poorly treated managers (uninspiring service?)
    4. Changing drinking habits/patterns.
    5. Cheaper booze from Supermarkets.
    For those who care and those who don't, social drinking in pubs is not the escape route that many in the past used it for. With the exception of Witherspoons who defy all odds stacked against pubs. Cheap ale (yes ALE) low priced all day food, based in areas of high population , and Witherspoons buying power to buy beers at a price that enables them to sell lots of it at much lower prices than normal tied tenanted houses. Thomas Leaper in Irongate is another that has the same formula, Nice place, low prices and food.
    A Huge capital investment! How long will it last?
    Real ale pubs have an appeal supermarket booze cannot replicate.
    I agree with the idea of having dedicated off-licences ( no liquour can be sold anywhere else) as in North America, which can only open in 'normal' licensing hours. Bars and pubs could be made more amenable by having table service only to make the drinking out a more globally acceptable experience. Many people do not use pubs at all. In fact the vasy majority do not use pubs. You have to ask why?”

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    by Roy, Derby

    Friday, January 01 2010, 12:12PM

    “Nearly three quid for a glass of what's basically water, and you have to go outside for a smoke - no, can't think why pubs are empty ;)”

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    by Angela, Derby

    Friday, January 01 2010, 11:48AM

    “Chris has the right idea in stopping supermarkets selling alcohol, the brewery has also got to stop tying pubs to their chain, it over-inflates the price making it harder to make a living. The pubs now are tenancies which costs the landlord for all overheads, unlike managed houses which were owned by the brewery and landlords paid a wage for running it. If landlords could buy their beer and spirits on the open market it could reduce the price of a pint and perhaps people could afford to go out. for a drink.”

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    by John, Derby

    Friday, January 01 2010, 11:15AM

    “I think a combination of the smoking ban and pricing is forcing pubs to close. The government and breweries are not doing anything to help either. Next budget day when Alastair Darling tells us he's putting duty on beer up and this will mean 2p on a pint of beer. We all know by the time us customers pay for that pint, the price will have gone up 10p as the brewery will put their bit on.”

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    by chris, derby

    Friday, January 01 2010, 10:51AM

    “supermarkets can sell beer at a loss to get customers through the door and get them to buy their groceries there, its killing the bars and pubs, simple solution is take the licenses from the supermarkets, the fact that they are selling booze so cheap is enough reason under the new licensing laws,
    make booze available only from pubs who are able to sell it to take home, they could sell it at off licence prices, it would boost trade for pubs, save thousands of jobs, it would encourage more responsible drinking countrywide, it could save the country from the recession.
    pubs deserve this as a reward for the smoking ban,
    it makes sense, the supermarkets wont like it but it wont cost them a penny as they're selling it at a loss anyway, they're being irresponsible selling it so cheap,
    this christmas the police will have been swamped with fights etc at house parties where everyones p***ed on 3 cases for £20, theres no cctv no doorstaff no supervision.
    the uk has a drinking problem, put the responsibility for selling this legal drug back firmly in the hands of real licensees, (those that look after you while your drinking) it would restore pubs, jobs community etc etc,

    i know i'm rambling but hey its new years day and i went into town and got drunk last nigh :)”

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    by Peter west, Northampton

    Friday, January 01 2010, 9:35AM

    “As I understand it, a landlord tied to a brewery or pub group would be paying almost £70 for that amount of beer. And he is not allowed to go to Asda to buy.

    What chance have the pubs got ?”

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    by Tom Fulep, Sinfin

    Friday, January 01 2010, 9:07AM

    “Three packs of 15 (440 ml) cans of Carling lager at asda for twenty quid. Less a £1.00 off voucher for each pack equals £17.00 for 45 cans or approximately 34 pints. Thirty four pints in the local boozer, at £2.70 a pint, equates to £91.80, which means you pay nearly £75.00 more for the same amount of booze. Yes, seventy five quid for £17.00 worth of booze.”

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